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65) Q. Minucius Thermus, Q. f. L. n. (Fasti Cap.), started his career as a follower of P. Scipio Africanus and has perhaps also been treated differently in historical tradition depending on the position it took in relation to Scipio. As Scipio's military tribune in Africa in 552 = 202, he is mentioned, incidentally without a praenomen, only in the falsified representation of this last campaign of the Hannibalian war (cf. on this, among others, De Sanctis Storia dei Romani III 2, 601ff.) mentioned honorably twice. - Firstly, he is said to have intercepted a food transport sent to Hannibal and: destroyed half of the accompanying Libyan soldiers and captured half of them, each around 4,000 men (Appian. Lib. 36 E. Frontin. strat. I 8, 10); - Secondly, he is said to have been sent by Scipio to help his beleaguered left wing at Zama with selected troops (Appian. Lib. 44). The participation of the M. in the African campaign is certainly not fictional, but historical. In the following year 553 = 201 M. was a tribune and represented M. together with his colleague. M. Aeilius Glabrio, another follower of Scipio, whose interests vis-à-vis the new consul Cn. Cornelius Lentulu (n. vol. IV p. 1358, 45ff). They first prevented him from being allowed to go to Africa as Scipio's successor in command (Liv. XXX 40, 9-11), and then they brought, When in the Senate he thwarted the approval of the peace concluded by Scipio with Carthage, he referred the question directly to the tribute committees, and again with great success (ibid. 43, 1-4; cf. Momms e n St.-R. I 282, 5. II 643. III 344. 1170, 2. 1172, 2] Another party comrade of the Scipions was Ti. Sempronius Longus (and vol. II A p. 1434):

Together with him, M. 556 = 198 held the Eurulian Adility (Liv. XXXII 27, 8), he was elected triumvir for the establishment of maritime colonies for three years in 557 = 197 (ibid. 29, 3f.) and he reached the praetorship in 558 = 196 (ibid. XXXIII 24, 2), which was also given to Glabrio at the same time. M. received Hispania citerior as a province and another colleague, Q. Fabius Buteo (n. vol. VI p. 1761, 2lff.), each of them received a legion; 4,000 Latins and allies on foot and 300 on horseback and had to go to his post as quickly as possible (Liv. XXXIII 26, ]. 3f. 43, 8). Because of their predecessors in the province on this side, C. Sempronius Tudit.anus (see vol. II A p. 1440) succumbed to a fatal wound after a severe defeat (Liv. XXXIII 25, 9), and M. HelviUB (above . Vol. VIII p. 224 No. 4), the governor of the province on the other side and the given representative of the governor in the province on this side, himself a sick man. This situation, that Helvius had to administer the two provinces until the new praetors arrived, explains why Appia.n. lb. 39 which M. describes as the successor of Tudit.anus and Helvius and that VaJerius Antias (frg. 35 Peter) in Liv.' XXXIV 10, 5 described him as one of Helvill6, although his actual province was the otherworldly one. The view that M. is not Hispania citerior, but in de? Tat Hispania ulterior has been generally rejected so far (see e.g. N i s s e n Krit. LO Exam. 155. W i I s d o r f Lei,pz. Stud. I 81. 138), but is supported by De Sanctis IV l, 446 , 135 approved because M. fought in Turdetania. His military deeds in Spain are not recorded in J. 558 = 196, but by Liv. XXXIII 44, 4 at the beginning of 559 = 195 briefly mentioned in the form of his own war report: Litterae a Q. Minucio adlatae sunt, se ad Turdam oppidum cum Budare et Raesadine, imperatoribus Hispanis, Bignis COft- ~O l.atis prospere pugnasse; duodecim milia hostium caesa, Budarem imperatorem ~ptum, ceteros fusos fugatosque.Although the number of casualties is exaggerated and may have been exaggerated not only by M. himself, but also by Valerius Antias, there is no doubt that M. died in 559 = 195, after he had given the army to his successor P. Manlius (Liv. XXXIV 17, 1), was able to celebrate a triumph. The triumph is except for Liv. 30 XXXIV 10, 6f. (according to Antias; see above) still in the Acta triumph. (GIL 12 p. 48: Q. M[inucius .. . ] \ prf ocos . .. ]) and in the triumphal table by Tolentino or, more correctly, by Urbisaglia (ibid. p. 75; cf. Not. d. seav. 1925 , 119f.: [Q. Minu]cius Thermus p[rocos ... ]), but unfortunately only the name of M., not that of his province, is preserved in lH!iden. The same difficulty as with him also arises with his successor P. Manlius (no vol. XIV p. 1160), because he was also sent to Hispania citerior (Liv. X.XXIII 43, 5), but first Before he came under the higher empire of the consul M. Ca~, the war in Turdetania and against the 'Furdetans (ibid. XXXIV 17, ]ff. 19, 1). Either in these first years of the administration of Spain, up to the Senate's decision in the case of Helvius (ibid. 10, 5: quod alieno auspicio et in aliena provincia pugrnisset), the two command districts were not as fierce against each other as they were later demarcated, or the battle site 'I'urda of the .M. (= Turta in Cato or. frg. p. 35, 18f. Jordan) and the Turdetans as opponents of Ifanlius are different from those in the Baetis area (see S eh u 1 t e n Numantia I 34) and are in the province on this side not far from Saguntum to look for something, which seems by no means impossible given the extremely frequent recurrence of the same and similar place names in Spain (see Sch u I ten Mr. LXIII 288f.) 60. 560 = 194 under the second consulship of Scipio Africanus and the consulship of Ti. Sempronius Longus, the three-person commission for the maritime colonies, which was set up in 557 = 197, completed its work with the participation of M. and under the leadership of his old comrade, the now plebeian consul (Liv . XXXIV 45, 2). With the support of these consuls, a gentile comrade of Scipio, L. Cornelius Merula (no vol. IV p. 1407 no. 270), and his party comrade M. (Fasti Cap. Chronogr. Hydat.) were promoted to senior office for the next year 561 = 193 Chron. Pasch. [both with slight distortion of the cognomen Thermua to Hermus]. Just as in the year 557 = 197 the two consuls C. Cornelius Cetbegus and Q. Minucius ~ufus (~r. 55) were assigned Northern Italy, namely the Corneher Galhen and the Minucian Liguria, so it happened now in the year 1. 561 = 193 among their peers ~iv. XXXIV 55, 5. 56, 3). The Ligurians, probably especially the Apuans, had risen up, made devastating attacks on the Luna area and ravaged the coastal area as far as Pisae (ibid. 56, 2). M. arranged extensive armaments (ibid. 66, S-7) and led his troops via Arretium to Pi~e, since large masses of the enemy had already surrounded it (ibid. XXXV 3, lf.). They let ~ of of the city, and he chose it as the base of his own operations; But the war dragged on from 561 = 193 to the end of 563 = 191 without any major decisions or successes. The news about this process is not very productive and is not credible, because a depiction of the changeable Klemk? It was hardly possible, but some episodes were made broader. During his consular year, M. limited himself to protection! the territory of the allies because he had no real confidence in his untrained teams (ibid. XXXV 3, 3-4, l); Given the threatening situation, he did not dare to travel to Rome from Pisae to Rome for the gathering, which was assigned by lot, but instead caused the Senate to appoint his colleague for it (ibid. 6, 1-7). Towards the end of the year he came into great danger twice (ibid. 11, l). The first case is reported in a few words (ibid. 11, 2): Castra cu11sulis oppugnata acgre ~unt defensa; However, in exactly the same way, only in more detail, it is also said in J. 563 = 191 that the Ligurians suddenly attacked his camp at night and pressed them hard until they were defeated in the morning by a double sortie, but only after a long fight, with the loss of more than 4000 dead were expelled (ibid. XXXVI 38, 1-4, perhaps quoting from ibid. 6 An: tias); perhaps the same attack was reported in two different years. M. faced the second danger at the end of 561 = 193 when he and his army were trapped in a defile and saw before them the fate of the consuls surrounded at Caudium; Then his light Numidian horsemen managed to get through the enemy, set fire to the nearest villages in their rear and thereby lure the Ligurians away from the dominant heights to save their own. This episode is told vividly and vividly (Liv. XXXV 11, 2-13; from Fron tin. stat. I 5, 16 and Oros. IV 20, 17), but without all names and locations, and is by no means very praiseworthy for M.; Judging by her tone, it could well go back to his opponent Cato (see below). For 562 = 192, M. was granted the extension of his command and an increase in his armed forces (Liv. XXXV 20, 6). He gave the Ligurians a happy encounter near Pisae and was able to take possession of their abandoned camp after their next departure (ibid. 21, 7-9). But the further report that he now also moved into their own town, devastated it, took some towns and castles and made rich booty (ibid. 21, IOf.), is not entirely without suspicion, because the same thing was reported once by the consul of that year L. Qumctms Flamininus (ibid. 40, 4; see Ni s • sen 174). From the year 563 = 191, the third of his command (ibid. XXXVI 39, 7), nothing is mentioned other than the already mentioned defense of an enemy attack on M.'s own camp (ibid. 38, 1--- 4; 11. above); de1:1n_och it says that the then Coneul P. Sc1p10 NaBlca (n. vol. IV p. 1496), the faithful cousin and io friend of Afrie&nus, expressed the utmost confidence that he would become M. after his return from Northern Italy shortly end the subjugation of the Ligurians and then demand and receive the well-deserved triumph (ibid. 40, 2), and at the beginning of 564 = 190 he himself reported that his task had been solved and the whole of Liguria had submitted. After he had led his army into Boii territory on the orders of the Senate and handed it over to the now He arrived in Rome later that year and demanded a second triumph. At the same time and with the same expectation, Glabrio (ibid. 46, 1), his former comrade in the tribunate in the praetor and in the following of the Scipions, came from the East. This Proconsul, the victor over Antiochus and the Aetolians, was granted the Tnuwph without any objection, but M. was denied it. Liv's short note. XXXVII 46, 2 is purified by the titles and remainders of speeches by Cato, the spokesman for the anti-Seipion party in the Senate. Two quotes have been preserved, one from Fest. 286 and one at Priscian, with the general inscription: Cato in Q. Ther- 111um, five more, four again at Fest. (153. 193. 344) and one in Gell. XIII 25, 12, from Oato in Q. Thermum de decem hominibus and finally one in Gell. X 3, 17 from Cato's libf.r qui de falsis pugnis inscriptus est (partly a~ch 50 at Non. 187, 24). This most extensive piece, like the de decem hominibus, is also about the illegal and cruel mistreatment and execution of ten. Li~rian tribe heads by M., who made them responsible for insufficient food deliveries. Perhaps that's why it's more like Drum a. n ~ (G. ß.2 V 116, 2) to accept a single speech by Cato than with Jordan (Catoni~ quae exstant LXXIIf. 39-42) and M a. l eo v a t 1 60 (Orat. Rom. frg. l 30f. 167-169) the unte?l!che~dung of two. The table of contents • de f_alsü pugnis ooshows that C~to fought M.'s fur~z~b7ts in terms of their reliability. Maybe Cic is thinking of that. brood. 225: Plus 'enim certe attulit huic populo dignitatis. -• qui non illustravit modo, sed e~ia~ g~uit. in hac urbe dicendi eopiam, quam tlh, qu1 Ligurum castella ezpugna'llerunt: ez quibus multi ,unt .• • triumplii. In 565 = 189 M. joined the Commission of Ten with his relative Q. Minucius Rufus No. 55, to which the reorganization of Asia Minor was entrusted (Liv. X.XXVII 55, 7). 566 = 188 the commission met in the Phrygian Apamea with the commander-in-chief, the Proconsul Cn. Manlius Vulso, together; After he had solemnly swore the peace treaty with Antioehos in their presence, he sent M. as one of the most respected members of the commission together with his brother and legate L. Manlius Vulso (n. vol. XIV p. 1223, 4lff.) to Syria so that the king could take the corresponding oath before them (Polyb. XXI 46, lf., from Liv. XX.X.VIII 39, 1. Inaccurate Appian. Syr. 39: wμvv ... o :A.nioxo; brl wvro neμcp{iivn eieμqi z,Äcaexqi, probably as a result of a confusion of the ambiguous Latin legatus with tribunus militum). Y. returned to Cn. Manlius Vulso returned and was with his army when it was attacked by predatory natives on the return march into Thrace; he was killed on this occasion (Liv. XXXVIII 41, 3. 46, 7. 49, 8), and among the accusations that were then made against Manlius by the Scipion party in the Senate in 567 = 187 was that he was responsible for the death of this vir Fortis ac stres 1iuus (ibid. 41, 3 = 49, 8). This judgment about M. is that of his party friends, which Polybius, Livy's informant, adopted. His son is possibly L. Thennus No. 63. M.'s death in the fight against the Thracians was glorified a hundred years later by his descendant of the same name No. 66 on his denarii, if the barbarian shown here, from which a Roman warrior protects his fallen companion, can be characterized as Tracian by the horns on his helmet. --ELexikon (Diskussion) 09:42, 20. Mai 2024 (CEST)Beantworten

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